Quack and the Pneumatic Ducks -- Mach 7 -- Cinnimon Haze -- Membrane |
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| Links: | This is my effort to fit all the key people and events
that were our band into a consistant time frame. It is still a work
in progress -- there many fuzzy areas, and we're not even close listing
all the gigs we played. As each former band member and friend has
shared their memories, it has helped to fill in some of the blanks, or
sometimes has raised new questions and problems.
Were you there? I would very much like to continue to refine
and add to this, so please send me any additions, changes, or especially
any memories that come to mind.
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Updated July 22, 2000
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| New! The chronology has been updated using recently discovered notes in Chip's mother's engagement calendars. 7/12/00 | |
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| Larry Minton wants to start a band, recruits various friends
and classmates from Miss Nikkel's English class. The lineup soon
includes Larry, Bill, Carl, Kim, Monte, Chip, Chris Kane, and Nancy Fisher.
The name:
Quack and the Pneumatic Ducks |
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It was generally understood that Larry was "Quack". :-)
Somewhat less clear is when, exactly, we started having practices.
The general concensus is that practices began during the Summer of 1966.
However there is no evidence that I (Chip) actually participated in any
practice until March 1967. The full chronology of this first year
may never be known, but it is definitely an area for further research.
Chip: The song "For What It's Worth" was released some time in 1967, so Nancy's memory can be no earlier than that. She doesn't remember me being there, and I don't remember her being there, so it must be from the limbo period before I became the bass player.
Nancy adds: We actually played a job with me on tambourine. It was for a party for one of our teachers, so it almost had to be Miss Nikkel. Seems like it was in Encinitas, but could have been Solana Beach. There were very few of us, but I'm positive that at least Bill and Monte were there. I remember Monte, especially, because I had a bit of a crush on him at the time (see, I wasn't always the crushee!). Again, since we only knew a few songs from the recent Buffalo Springfield album, we quickly ran out of things to play, and played one song over at least once, maybe twice. I think it was "Sit Down I Think I Love You."
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Chip: I don't remember exactly what prompted the name change, but fundamentally a bunch of 13 or 14-year olds called "Quack and the Pneumatic Ducks" were just hard to take seriously. "Mach 7" seemed to connote a more serious enterprise. However, the name suffers from being ambiguous in pronunciation and somewhat obscure: it was usually necessary to spell out M-a-c-h for people, and often to explain what it meant (mach 1 = the speed of sound, mach 7 meaning "seven times the speed of sound").
Larry: I did play at the garden party (mandolin) but not at St. Peter's though I remember it - I was essentially a "roadie" and not happy about it.
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David: I remember being somewhat envious when you all formed Quack and the Pneumatic Ducks so I decided to start my own band. I don’t remember if we ever had a name, and I can only remember one other member, the guitarist, George Nameth [probably Nasif -- chip] . I had a homemade amplifier built into an old wooden hi-fi stereo cabinet and we played “Louie Louie” and “The Little Black Egg with the Little White Specks” over and over and over again. Failing to get any paying gigs, the band soon broke up and I turned my attention to figuring out what I could do to become a part of your group. I don’t know if the name had yet officially been changed to “Cinnimon Haze” or if I had anything at all to do with the odd spelling of the name, but my spelling and handwriting have always been bad enough that I certainly could have! I had already been asked sometime earlier to be on the Dance Committee for The Cotillion which was held at the Garden Club in RSF and one of the our duties was to pick a band for the end of the season party. I asked you guys if I could act as your manager, something that every successful band really should have, if I could get you a paying job. My fee: a mere 15% of the contract, a real bargain, as most managers got 25% I explained. |
Bill: We were all bummed because we had to forsake our usual psychedelic shirts [they were Nehru shirts. I still have the gold chain that went with mine - cc] with matching white collars for dress shirts and ties. I remember the MC asking us to play a tango--we all looked at Chip, (the only Cotillion-trained member of the band) and he suggested Mr. Spaceman [nah, couldn't have been me -- cc]. The MC was obviously less than pleased with our choice.

Bill: Then there was our long standing run at the 7th grade dance
series at Earl Warren. I remember how no one danced until one of us got
the idea to announce a girl's choice number, which turned the situation
around immediately.
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Cinnimon Haze with Suzie Calen
April 1968 Chip's house in Rancho Click on image for more April 68 pix. |
Chip: We were going to a gig when these "April 68" pictures were taken. But my mom's calendar lists no gigs in April. So either there was an omission or these were from earlier in the year.
Carl Geiberger Keyboards |
David Blair Lead singer, Management |
Monte Etherton Drums |
Guitar |
10th Grade (San Dieguito H.S. 1969 Hoofprint) |
Bass |
Chip: Could this possibly be the infamous "Meeting House" gig? It's infamous because Kim refused to come to a practice unless we could actually practice at the Meeting House, the place where the gig was supposed to be. So we put up a sign at the end of my driveway that said "Meeting House", told Kim that, yes, we were practicing at the Meeting House, and then somebody picked him up and brought him over. He was not amused. The sign was attached to one of those very cool "pointing hands" that Carl used to make. Then somebody stole the sign during the night :-(. Kim was still living in RSF at that time. The other thing I remember about this gig is that I was using my old 1-15 amp (the one in the April 68 pix) and it quit working during setup. I whipped out the trusty tool kit, opened it up, and found that one of the internal speaker wires that went from the voice coil to the lugs had broken. Soldered it back together and on with the show.
Carl: Our set was "enhanced" by dancing members of an Up With People cast that also performed there that day.
Monte: Oh well, I do now at least remember trying to get a twin bass drum set into an elevator...
Chip: Huh? El Cortez? Oh wait! This is the one where some people on stage are talking about "today's music" and the older character (probably Jane Wyatt) complains, "It starts with a bang and ...." That was our cue and we started Soul Kitchen. But it was stupid because Soul Kitchen starts very quietly! No one had told us beforehand what the context was! This has bothered me ever since, because we could have done "Light My Fire" and it would have been perfect.
David: I took along a friend from San Dieguito, Bobbie Polkemp (sic?)
who was well over 6' tall and quite good looking. The two or more professional
light show guys who were several years older than us zoomed in on her right
away. They kept trying to get her to go out with them telling her that
she was way to hot to be hanging out with the likes of us. I was surprised
by her loyality as she just grabbed my arm and kept saying "No way! I'm
with David"
David: This was a weird one, and possibly one of our last together
as Membrane. I think we started about midnight and played till dawn. Things
were going ok until about 3AM when for some reason I decided to sing my
own imagined “dirty” lyrics to “Louie Louie”. I must have sung too loud
and too clearly as the room quickly cleared with several people shaking
their heads in disgust as they walked out. Some time later, I nearly fell
off of the stage, maybe from lack of sleep, but more likely from some kind
of substance abuse. On the drive home after the job I had to hang my head
out of the car window to stay awake as I drove home and nearly fell asleep
behind the wheel several times. I remember this being a low point
for me with the band and situations like this may have contributed in part
to Carl leaving soon afterward.
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the future Mrs. Etherton |
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May 1971, Chip and Carl at practice in The Pit.
Part of a set of 1971 photos by Chip's mother. Click on the picture to see the whole set. |
Vista High School – After Football Game Dance
David: When we first arrived at the school we found the entrance
road that we had been directed to blocked by a locked gate. We just parked
in the driveway and waited for someone to open it for us. Soon two cops
arrived, told us that we were illegally parked in a fire lane, searched
our vehicles and wrote us parking tickets. At some point during the performance
we announced that we had gotten tickets while trying to load in and we
sent a couple of girls that were with us (Heidi and one of her friends?)
around with a hat to take up a collection to pay for the tickets. Later
one of the girls told me between songs that they had actually collected
more than enough to pay for the tickets. I took the excess change and began
to toss it into the crowd. Well why not? Real rock stars were always
throwing things into the crowd. Another big mistake – for the next
two or three songs pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters came zooming past
my head as the crowd flung them back at us!
Vista High School – Another after-game dance
Chip: We were booked to play an after-game dance at Vista.
Now, about this time we had discovered Carvin in Escondido, which was then
still a very small and personal company. The owners, brothers Carson
and Gavin, had a policy of letting local bands try out a full Carvin PA
system at a live gig. So I arrange this with them for the Vista dance.
The procedure is that they actually load up the PA system in their own
van, bring it to the gig and set it up. The very afternoon of the
dance, we get a call from Vista: they've cancelled the dance! It's
after hours, but I frantically call Carvin in hopes of heading them off.
Fortunately they answer the phone, but meanwhile they've already loaded
their van with all the gear, and are a little pissed off about it.
They tell me that they will never be able to do that for us again.
I've been just a little scared of them ever since.
The last documented performance of "Membrane" was at Poway High,
December 3 1971.
When I first started the project to figure out the whole "Cinnimon Haze" chronology I wrote down the following: "1972: Sometime during the first half of the year, the band just fades away as we go our separate ways. Or maybe I just faded away: I drop out of school, give away many possessions, give up soap, and hitchhike around the USA with no money."Since then I've had the unique opportunity to refresh my memory from my mother's calendars. The last band practice mentioned in her notes was on May 26, 1972. Five days later I began a series of long treks across the USA, largely alone, either hitchhiking or by car, which kept me away from home almost continuously until November. I have to admit that my own absences contributed greatly to the band's end. When I returned in November we were all very different people and the band was dead.
Those of you who kept in close touch with me during the period 1972-1973 (mostly Monte, Kim and David) know that substance abuse led to some serious problems for me. I thank God for the patience of my friends and family, and for allowing me to survive those years without a criminal record and with my mind mostly intact.
-- Chip Chapin